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OiGratzX
10-17-2000, 03:49 AM
would 3 audiobahn aw1205's be louder than 3 jl 12w6's of a mmats d200hc???? what other subs should i consider???? the 3 w6's are just not loud enough!!!

Thanks

MIKEYB
10-17-2000, 04:05 AM
what box are the subs in? is it ported or sealed? where are they in the car and how are they angled? how do you have them wired? what size power cable are you running?

OiGratzX
10-17-2000, 04:17 AM
its in a sealed box facing the trunk they're wired parallel with 4 gauge power wire.

MMats4life
10-17-2000, 04:46 AM
You should try getting a costom box with a port out the rear deck. I would not get rid of the JLs for audiobahn.

Iamthegreat0ne
10-17-2000, 05:02 AM
The audiobahns will absolutely slaughter the jl's in spl but probably wont sound as clear but will still sound good. I say go audiobahn

Dr Remulac
10-17-2000, 02:52 PM
Slaughter the JL's in SPL???? How in the world do you figure that? Givin the same power the output between the setups would be VERY close to eachother. There is something quite wrong if you say that the (3)12W6 setup is not loud enough. How many watts does your d200hc put out? I would venture to say that you are either underpowering those subs, your enclosure volume is incorrect or you have them wired improperly. A trio of 12W6's should easily put you in the mid 140's if set up properly.

reporter
10-17-2000, 04:16 PM
i like dr. remulac's remedy. go with more power. i have 2 w3-d4's wired in seried to a mono 600 by 1. they slam! in fact i think its too much bass. i need to power my highs and mids more. anyway, wire them in series or get a bigger amp. they will sound good in the smallest of boxes. mine is only 12 by 22 by 8. not a very deep box you could call it. and i heard the same speakers in a box with twice as much depth and they absolutely were the best sounding subs i have ever heard. with any type amp, the bigger the better these subs can slam. i have a kenwood and it does the job w/o overheating or cutting off. and the subs dont overdistort, and i dont even have the amp's main feature(sigma servo) hooked up to these. if i hooked that up, i am sure wouldnt hear as much aftershock from as you would from certain frequencies. anyway you should be able to get the jl's to rock.

Jcg
10-17-2000, 06:17 PM
I heard the jl w3 and w6 at a local shop near me. I was not that impressed with the jl in comparision to the eclipse alum's. The alums slamed hard and deep while the jl just bottemed out.

MIKEYB
10-17-2000, 06:30 PM
usualy shops have walls with the subs setup, do you think they change the cubic feet of air space in the display wall when they change subs? not any I have been to. so it's realy hard to compare subs when they are not in there optimum encloser.

OiGratzX
10-17-2000, 11:28 PM
the d200hc puts out 1200 watts at 1 ohm.....dont get me wrong the jl's slam..i guess im a little worried that i'll blow them cuz of the power rating on the subs.(300 watts rms) what subs do you guys recommend????? should i sell the jl's and get 1 15" Juggernaut ported???? or what other trio combinations would you recommend???

1man2minis
10-17-2000, 11:55 PM
keep your jl's and make sure they're in the right size enclosure. but if you want to get rid of them, i'll take them off your hands for free. =D

Iamthegreat0ne
10-18-2000, 02:29 AM
Have you guys who say jl ever even heard the aw1205? they are insane. The one problem that you have is that you can't get 3 aw1205's to 1 ohm mono cuase they are dual 2 ohm subs. if you can, figure the ohmage that the 3 would be and get an amp that will work well with it. you will forget about jl really quick

SystemAddict
10-18-2000, 03:09 AM
In response to your question, I would definitely get that mmats amp. The w6's are WAAAAYYYYY under rated for street use. The way that jl audio tests their subs is they play the subs with a certain amount of wattage for like 20+ hours straight with very low frequencies, and if the sub doesn't blow with that much power going to it, they increase the wattage by 50 watts. It it blows after the 50 watts, then the wattage that the sub didn't blow at is considered it's RMS wattage. Now, when in the world are you going to play those subs for over 20 hours straight, with nothing but deep frequencies? NEVER. I would say go with that amp. It will pound the hell out of your subs and will never cause those subs to blow. I am sure of it.

shootme5150
10-18-2000, 05:48 AM
I would never trade JLs for AudioBahns. Those W6s can take a LOT more power than that. I'd suggest running them off a PH-D2. My boy had this setup and it was easily as loud if not louder than my 2 MASS 12s on the same amp. Those subs can slam.

S351 Stang
10-18-2000, 01:50 PM
YEah I heard the 1205's and wasn't all that impressed. They looked like another sub with a big surround that couldn't use all of the surround for excursion. They ran 700 a piece to 3 of em', and only did 144 I think, the same shop ran the same set up, same amp, car, box everything, but switched to JL 12 W6's and hit 146 or so. So based on that I would never trade a W6 for an Audiobahn.

machaf
10-18-2000, 02:05 PM
If you want something that will kick the **** out of JL's go to a car audio store and listen to the Infinity Perfects. 3 12's would freakin pound!

Jcg
10-18-2000, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by MIKEYB:
usualy shops have walls with the subs setup, do you think they change the cubic feet of air space in the display wall when they change subs? not any I have been to. so it's realy hard to compare subs when they are not in there optimum encloser.

Well, no they were not in a wall. All the subs they had were in 3/4 inch mdf seperate chambers with mfg spec enclosures. When he demoed the subs he would place them on the floor to limit ratteling.

Brian_S
10-19-2000, 05:31 AM
Anyone that says JLs cant handle the power is smokin dope.

I had two jl 12w6s in rear firing ported boxes in my sentra, with no sound deadening sh!t or anything else done to the car.

I ran one pg xs2500 to EACH at 3 ohm which is 600+ watts. they never blew, even with the gain all the way up (for comp),

They hit 144.6 in the Kenwood comp. last summer.

I recently purchased a 3rd w6 and put them in a teardrop bandpass that my friend had, i havent heard their full potential yet because i am only running one xs to all of them. i am waiting to sell my amps and get the mmats.

im expecting high 140s anyway. what do you guys think? it will be going in a thunderbird SC

wskstealth
12-15-2002, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Iamthegreat0ne
Have you guys who say jl ever even heard the aw1205? they are insane.

thmbup They sure are!!

streetrace_r
12-15-2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by wskstealth


thmbup They sure are!!

:rolleyes:

bassfreak
12-15-2002, 07:46 PM
get some audiobahn alum 12s.;)

bigbumpin17
12-15-2002, 07:48 PM
in your situation, i would stick with the w6s. the 1205 would need more power and a nice ported box, then they would beat the w6s for spl no problem..

streetrace_r
12-15-2002, 07:48 PM
anyone notice that this is a bump from 2000 ?

bigbumpin17
12-15-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by streetrace_r
anyone notice that this is a bump from 2000 ?

no, but good point...:D

just saw that

wskstealth
12-15-2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by streetrace_r
anyone notice that this is a bump from 2000 ? thmbup says: good JOB!~