alpine head units

[Alpine_11]

which one would you rather have/which is better from the two:

alpine cda-9887r

or

alpine cda-105ri

??

also what is the difference from the two and besides these which could you also reccommend

thanks

[basicxj]

The Alpine CDA 9887 is a unit with significant onboard processing options (the closest thing to the older BassEngine Pro features currently available) that can also use Alpine's Imprint auto-tuning software- be aware that Imprint turns most of the advanced manual tuning features "off".

The CDA 105 is a lesser unit that is dependent on Imprint to set the majority of features up automatically, at the expense of manual tuning not available with this model...it's oriented towards the less advanced user who cares more about iPod functionality than advanced tuning options, users not looking to build a high-end system around a head unit with active capabilities.

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=CDA-9887

http://signature.crutchfield.com/S-L...-CDA-9887.html

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...?model=CDA-105

http://signature.crutchfield.com/S-6...e-CDA-105.html

It's impossible to say which is right for you (if either) based on information in your post, but "the google" holds much information on both of these head units (and many others) .

[Alpine_11]

i am looking for an all round head unit, and have always loved alpine so i was looking at them two as i have an alpine 103bt but i have just kept it and never used it because i rather have one of the two, 105ri or 9887r

do you think 9887r has an edge over the 105ri or is there not much of a difference?

i just want to know exactly what to do/buy before i go for it

thanks

[basicxj]

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 i am looking for an all round head unit, and have always loved alpine so i was looking at them two as i have an alpine 103bt but i have just kept it and never used it because i rather have one of the two, 105ri or 9887r do you think 9887r has an edge over the 105ri or is there not much of a difference? i just want to know exactly what to do/buy before i go for it thanks

What I was getting at is you're comparing an apple (CDA 9887) to an orange (CDA 105). Apart from both being made by Alpine, the similarity ends once you get past the basic playback functions.

The motivations to buy either unit would be drastically different- if you are after a high-end unit that can give you control over most aspects of your system, the 9887 would be the better option. If you don't care to tune any of these things yourself and want a basic entry-level head unit, the 105 might be worth considering. I would need to know what you plan on doing for a system as a whole before buying either unit...couple that with research and you might not have to upgrade for a long time.

[Alpine_11]

headunit- ?? 9887r/105ri/etc (have a 103bt and old skool sony)
front speakers - jbl (old skool)
rear speakers - alpine (old skool)
tweeters - jl audio
4 channel amp - jl 300/4
2 channel amp for tweeters - ?? (alpine/jl/rf)
wiring - 1/0 gauge rockford fosgate
8 gauge knukonceptz
sub - fi bl 18''
amp - cadence zrs either 75000d/8000d
..etc

all to be installed

[Alpine_11]

also what about the 9886r?

as you can see i am stuck on this..

[nabissssco]

LOL, your not helping basic that much at all. How much have you read about either deck and where do you want to go with your setup (are you thinking of getting new high end speakers and amps and such and you want a hu that can do most everything you need and one that you will not have to upgrade or change for a long time)? If it were me I would get the 9887 but listen to basic as he is trying to guide your thought process in the right direction for you to make up your own mind and be happy.

[Alpine_11]

lol hence the ''as you can see im stuck on this''

i want one that can basically do everything (even make a cup of tea?) or have most of the areas covered, even if that means it doesnt make tea..

also one that i will not have to change or upgrade for a long time

i hope that helps but as you can see i dont have a clue which one to go for..

at the moment i am looking into and extremely pulled towards the alpine 9887r, alpine 105ri and the alpine 9886r, but do not know which one to go for

thanks!

[drozzy]

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 lol hence the ''as you can see im stuck on this'' i want one that can basically do everything (even make a cup of tea?) or have most of the areas covered, even if that means it doesnt make tea..

Pretty ambitious there, Technical Stan.

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 also one that i will not have to change or upgrade for a long time

Yeah, ok, yeah. Big or small wallet? Big or small plans for the future?

State budget, and system composition... wait, I think you already did that, but I couldn't tell if that stuff was real i.e. already in the car or if you were... making plans.

You got "front speakers" and "tweeters" listed on two seperate lines, god knows what the models are... and you want a dedicated 2-channel amp to power the tweeters alone? Smells like an active setup... however everything else doesn't. "Old skool" speakers could be anything.

With regards to your system as a whole, we demand clarity on WHAT YOU HAVE & WHAT YOU NEED.

What kind of music do you listen to btw?

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 as you can see i dont have a clue which one to go for..

Acknowledged.

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 at the moment i am looking into and extremely pulled towards the alpine 9887r, alpine 105ri and the alpine 9886r, but do not know which one to go for

Back to square one!!!!!!!!! Make another thread. -- don't, i was j/k

[Alpine_11]

Originally Posted by drozzy With regards to your system as a whole, we demand clarity on WHAT YOU HAVE & WHAT YOU NEED

headunit - not real as i havnt got 1 yet as you can see by the thread (alpine 103bt and Sony xr-c7220r (in posession))

front speakers - JBL Grand Touring GTO-602 (in posession)

rear speakers - Alpine sps-6939S (in posession)

tweeters - jl audio xr100-ct (in posession)

4 channel amp - jl 300/4 (in posession)

2 channel amp for tweeters - ?? (alpine/jl/rf) - looking

wiring - 1/0 gauge rockford fosgate - (looking for a good price)

8 gauge knukonceptz - on order

sub - fi bl 18'' - on order

amp - cadence zrs either 75000d/8000d - (will order from a trusted ebay seller, recommended by someone on this forum, once i get paid next)

Originally Posted by drozzy Yeah, ok, yeah. Big or small wallet? Big or small plans for the future?

and i have big plans for the future, and i will pay for something thats worth it put it that way, however i am not looking to pay stupid money if that helps

[drozzy]

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 wiring - 1/0 gauge rockford fosgate - (looking for a good price)

...(power/ground) wires are wires are wires. Brand names don't help.

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 and i have big plans for the future, and i will pay for something thats worth it put it that way, however i am not looking to pay stupid money if that helps

Get the 9886. Cheaper than the all-out SQ one, but my initial gut feeling says you don't need that. 4V preouts will help over what the 105 has to offer, when it comes down to driving your JL amp.

Even from Woofers, that's not stupid money. And there's plenty other places to buy.

http://www.woofersetc.com/p6183/CDA9...C-playback.htm

my $0.02

[basicxj]

Originally Posted by Alpine_11 headunit - not real as i havnt got 1 yet as you can see by the thread (alpine 103bt and Sony xr-c7220r (in posession)) front speakers - JBL Grand Touring GTO-602 (in posession) rear speakers - Alpine sps-6939S (in posession) tweeters - jl audio xr100-ct (in posession) 4 channel amp - jl 300/4 (in posession) 2 channel amp for tweeters - ?? (alpine/jl/rf) - looking wiring - 1/0 gauge rockford fosgate - (looking for a good price) 8 gauge knukonceptz - on order sub - fi bl 18'' - on order amp - cadence zrs either 75000d/8000d - (will order from a trusted ebay seller, recommended by someone on this forum, once i get paid next) and i have big plans for the future, and i will pay for something thats worth it put it that way, however i am not looking to pay stupid money if that helps

Just because you own and will soon own all of that gear doesn't make installing it all together in one vehicle a good idea- it'd be the car audio equivalent of squeezing 10lbs of sh*t into a 5 lb bag .

That's not meant to be a knock on your gear, that's a suggestion to save some of that stuff for a rainy day and not handicap your install with things that will do you more harm than good...start with your front stage (which is the most important part of the system) and install the JBL component speakers. I would skip the rear speakers and especially skip adding an additional pair of tweeters into the mix like the JLs you mention. If you care about things like sound quality, stereo imaging and staging, adding rear speakers and adding secondary tweeters (over and above what's included in your JBL component set) will actually hurt SQ and smear imaging, ruin staging, making things sound worse than just the components would alone. Punch the phrases "rear fill" and "imaging tweeters" into the forum's search function and read up- you'll probably find you don't want or need the other equipment...just because the car manufacturer included rear speakers doesn't mean they're good ingredients for a quality aftermarket system, and just because you can install multiple sets of speakers and tweeters doesn't mean you should .

Start with your front speakers and your subwoofer and amplify/tune from there for better results than cramming all of that gear into one install. The CDA 9887 will allow more tuning and tweaking than any of the other lower-end Alpine models you have mentioned. Just because they look similar doesn't mean they offer the same features. If you can afford the 9887 it will give a more solid base for a higher-end aftermarket audio system and you can grow into the more advanced processing/tuning features it offers.

[drozzy]

Originally Posted by basicxj it'd be the car audio equivalent of squeezing 10lbs of sh*t into a 5 lb bag .

Unfortunately for the OP,

I didn't say anything about the speakers because I know how it feels to feel "obligated (to sell those 5 lbs of extra sh1t) in order to make other investments". If he turns to the dark side, it means he's able to put money aside and scratch a choice he made recently. Acceptance is not easy for everyone.

You worded it very nicely.

[nabissssco]

Originally Posted by drozzy Pretty ambitious there, Technical Stan. Yeah, ok, yeah. Big or small wallet? Big or small plans for the future? State budget, and system composition... wait, I think you already did that, but I couldn't tell if that stuff was real i.e. already in the car or if you were... making plans. You got "front speakers" and "tweeters" listed on two seperate lines, god knows what the models are... and you want a dedicated 2-channel amp to power the tweeters alone? Smells like an active setup... however everything else doesn't. "Old skool" speakers could be anything. With regards to your system as a whole, we demand clarity on WHAT YOU HAVE & WHAT YOU NEED. What kind of music do you listen to btw? Acknowledged. Back to square one!!!!!!!!! Make another thread. -- don't, i was j/k

hahahahaha, I like this guy's style! Fukking crack's me up.

[drozzy]

Originally Posted by nabissssco hahahahaha, I like this guy's style! Fukking crack's me up.

Fvckin glad to hear. I usually have a couple laughs to myself before I post anything of that nature.

AbRa had his personal @sshole touch back in the days, but that was a bit extreme for me. He knew/knows way more about CA than I do though.